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Discussion for Today
[edit]- This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_November_14
November 14
[edit]NEW NOMINATIONS
[edit]Category:IShowSpeed livestreams
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category only contains redirects. It is generally considered harmful for a category to only contain redirects so there isn't much else for me to say here. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 02:42, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Cities and towns in Kiphire district
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Category containing just one article. Unhelpful for navigation. Merge to parent, already categorised in other parent. AusLondonder (talk) 20:41, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Can I understand the rational for merging? If it is because there is only one related article, then do we have any guidelines saying we shouldn't create a category with one article and with the possibility of inclusion of many more articles as and when they are created? Such creation helps users to categorise easily instead of creating the articles in a broader category.
- It's good to be streamlined rather than waiting for symptoms to appear to take actions. Pls note, I am not saying we should create empty categories! Thaejas (talk) 05:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- A category containing only one article is simply useless for navigation. It serves no purpose. If more articles are created or located, no objection to re-creation. AusLondonder (talk) 14:32, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge, also to Category:Kiphire district, without prejudice to recreation when a few more articles can be added. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:50, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Yacht racing biography stubs to Sailing biography stubs
[edit]Follow-up to this, broaden the scope of these stubs to sailing (Olympic sport) to include windsurfing, kitesurfing, dinghy racing etc. WPs Sailing, Stub sorting and Sports were notified a month ago without any feedback. Pelmeen10 (talk) 18:02, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:African yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Asian yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Chinese yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Japanese yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:European yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Austrian yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Belgian yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:British yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Danish yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Finnish yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:French yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:German yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Greek yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Irish yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Italian yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Dutch yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Norwegian yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Polish yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Portuguese yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Spanish yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Swedish yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Swiss yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:North American yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:American yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Canadian yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Oceanian yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Australian yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:New Zealand yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:South American yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Argentine yacht racing biography stubs
- Category:Brazilian yacht racing biography stubs
- Comment I can't help but notice that none of these proposed category renamings includes the proposed target name here? - The Bushranger One ping only 06:50, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- yacht racing -> sailing - can be seen at each of the pages. Pelmeen10 (talk) 19:43, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- But not here, which is kind of important, especially for the closing admin who has to move these to CFD/W if they're renamed. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:37, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- yacht racing -> sailing - can be seen at each of the pages. Pelmeen10 (talk) 19:43, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Large nomination; given extra time for objections.
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Category:Children of Clint Eastwood
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Not needed, Category:Eastwood family exists. --woodensuperman 09:36, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. Not a rationale for deletion. Dimadick (talk) 09:55, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- If you look at the whole tree, only historical figures are usually included in this category. It is not WP:DEFINING for these people as they are notable in their own right. There are only two entries for entertainers in this category, which have recently been created. I don't think this is a precedent we should be encouraging. --woodensuperman 10:02, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- There are many articles that categorize a person by anther related person (for example their spouse or parent). These articles were originally categorized with Clint Eastwood, so what you are basically saying is that we can't have these specific categories, but categorizing a person with the category for another person is alright. Inpops (talk) 13:17, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- No, people should not be categorised by other people per WP:DEFINING, WP:OCASSOC and WP:COPSEP. --woodensuperman 13:21, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- There are many articles that categorize a person by anther related person (for example their spouse or parent). These articles were originally categorized with Clint Eastwood, so what you are basically saying is that we can't have these specific categories, but categorizing a person with the category for another person is alright. Inpops (talk) 13:17, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- If you look at the whole tree, only historical figures are usually included in this category. It is not WP:DEFINING for these people as they are notable in their own right. There are only two entries for entertainers in this category, which have recently been created. I don't think this is a precedent we should be encouraging. --woodensuperman 10:02, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, this is a weird structure. On top there is Category:Eastwood family, including his children, at the next level there is Category:Clint Eastwood, and finally under that there is Category:Children of Clint Eastwood with again the children. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:00, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Children of Charlie Chaplin
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Not needed, Category:Chaplin family exists. --woodensuperman 09:35, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. Not a rationale for deletion. Dimadick (talk) 09:55, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- If you look at the whole tree, only historical figures are usually included in this category. It is not WP:DEFINING for these people as they are notable in their own right. There are only two entries for entertainers in this category, which have recently been created. I don't think this is a precedent we should be encouraging. --woodensuperman 10:02, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, this is a weird structure. On top there is Category:Chaplin family, including his children, at the next level there is Category:Charlie Chaplin, and finally under that there is Category:Children of Charlie Chaplin with again the children. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:02, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:1500 V DC multiple units of Victoria (state)
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Unneeded subcategory of Category:1500 V DC multiple units of Australia, and a complete carbon copy of the Category:Electric multiple units of Victoria (state). EditorGirlAL07 (talk) 04:38, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- I am not sure of its usefulness but there is a whole category tree by voltage. As it stands now, if not kept, the category should be merged to Category:1500 V DC multiple units of Australia or to Category:1500 V DC multiple units. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:1500 V DC multiple units of New South Wales
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Same reason as Category:1500 V DC multiple units of Victoria (state); unneeded and clone subcategory, except the NSW one excludes New South Wales R set, which to me is only a marginal difference. EditorGirlAL07 (talk) 04:42, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- I am not sure of its usefulness but there is a whole category tree by voltage. As it stands now, if not kept, the category should be merged to Category:1500 V DC multiple units of Australia or to Category:1500 V DC multiple units. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:27, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Ikusaka, Nagano
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article, an an article about a national park, both of which are already appropriately categorised. AusLondonder (talk) 20:51, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Useful category, for grouping of articles about Japanese municipalities, with links also to equivalent categories in other language Wikipedias. Please find something else to do rather than (proposal of) deletion of useful content and wasting of time. Same for other Japanese municipality-related listings here by the same User, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 23:41, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- How is a category containing two articles, with one being the main article, useful? This is a village of less than 2000 people. How does it aid navigation, which is the purpose of categorisation? AusLondonder (talk) 14:29, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Useful category, for grouping of articles about Japanese municipalities, with links also to equivalent categories in other language Wikipedias. Please find something else to do rather than (proposal of) deletion of useful content and wasting of time. Same for other Japanese municipality-related listings here by the same User, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 23:41, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, this does not aid navigation. Villages as small as this hardly ever have a category on their own. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:45, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:PewDiePie videos
[edit]- Propose merging Category:PewDiePie videos to Category:PewDiePie
- Nominator's rationale: This category contains Scare PewDiePie (a series, not an individual video), his videography, a list, good, but that still isn't an individual video. It also has two of his songs, which themselves aren't videos, but songs that also have a music video. Then you're left with just Minecraft Multiplayer Fun (and two songs which are already in the pre-existing songs category). People including the creator Sebbog13 are likely to just simply oppose this, however, the criteria I gave is the same reason Category:Video game glitches was unexpectedly deleted and merged into some other category. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 01:15, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:MrBeast videos
[edit]- Propose merging Category:MrBeast videos to Category:MrBeast
- Nominator's rationale: This category only has three pages, one of which is a redirect, leaving you with just two articles (not redirects). Even though it has enough content (sort of) it doesn't really matter (at least to me). The redirect 1,000 Blind People See For The First Time has a draft that has been declined multiple times, so that will probably never come to be anyway. I also believe Category:People associated with MrBeast should be merged to the Mrbeast category if not just deleted entirely. Also, speaking of MrBeast, we currently have two MrBeast Navigational templates, both of which have the same content; one a side-bar template, and the other a regular navigational box. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 00:44, 14 November 2024 (UTC)